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PostSubject: Which era would you like to have lived in?   Thu Aug 09, 2007 2:07 pm

Which era would you like to have lived in? and why?

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PostSubject: Re: Which era would you like to have lived in?   Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:02 pm

The future, where technology would make my life even easier:)
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PostSubject: Re: Which era would you like to have lived in?   Thu Aug 09, 2007 6:54 pm

which historical personality would u like to meet
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PostSubject: Re: Which era would you like to have lived in?   Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:33 am

To be perfectly honest i don't really have a desire to.

I mean, what is there to ask them?

What about you?
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PostSubject: Re: Which era would you like to have lived in?   Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:13 am

i would like to have been around the times of "god messengers" ie noah,moses,jesus,mohammed etc...

u get lost reading other peoples' weak assumptions and explinations, that u really feel like wanting to go and ask the man himself!
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PostSubject: Re: Which era would you like to have lived in?   Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:41 am

Ahh, so you like biographical history i take it. Am more concerned with cause and effect personally. But it can be interesting in some regards...
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PostSubject: Re: Which era would you like to have lived in?   Mon Aug 27, 2007 3:39 pm

or you could always go back in time to ask pascal cygan's under 17 coach what he saw in the balding fullback... albeit some mysteries are better left unanswered.
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PostSubject: Re: Which era would you like to have lived in?   Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:06 pm

Never question the greatness of Pascal 'Zinedine' Cygan in my presence.

His ability is paramount!
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PostSubject: Re: Which era would you like to have lived in?   Tue Aug 28, 2007 5:38 pm

all hail the great pisscal....

back to topic..

what would you ask a dead person if u had the chance? anybody..anytime in history..
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PostSubject: Re: Which era would you like to have lived in?   Thu Aug 30, 2007 6:05 am

Maybe 'why' comes to mind...but if you study history you learn every possible motivation that could have been running through an individual's head. Probably in more detail than what he was actually thinking in the first place.
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PostSubject: Re: Which era would you like to have lived in?   Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:29 am

is that a fact? never heard of someone being able to "understand" what goes through a person's mind just from his actions...
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PostSubject: Re: Which era would you like to have lived in?   Fri Aug 31, 2007 5:55 am

Well, take geo-strategic positions for example. The benefit of hindsight and documents that were or weren't available to an individual at the time make it possible to paint a picture of what was going through policy maker's heads at the time. Human's are predictable creatures. Given the same circumstances they largely act in the same way with the same goals in mind.
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PostSubject: Re: Which era would you like to have lived in?   Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:49 am

i dont this its that simple... ppl cant always predict what others can do based on statistics and history...
did anybody predict what hitler was gonna do? why didnt the stop him then?
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PostSubject: Re: Which era would you like to have lived in?   Fri Aug 31, 2007 6:19 pm

Various reasons:

The French didn't act because they would not do so without Britain.

Britain: Various. More interested in its Empire. Saw Fascism as a lesser evil than communism...Fascism provided a bullwark against it spreading West. Britain wasn't in a economic or militarily viable position to act. Genuine naivety on the part of Chamberlain. Horrors of World War One made them keen to avoid war.

There are various well documented factors as to why the sides acted in the way they did. And Hitler's intentions were made clear when he wrote Mein Kampf in the 1920s from his prison cell. Then there was the remilitarisation of the Rhineland, annexation of Austria, then Czechoslovakia...and always reports about the mistreatment of the Jews. Nazi philosophy wasn't a secret.
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PostSubject: Re: Which era would you like to have lived in?   Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:04 pm

what was hitler's ultimate goal? world domination? of all the ppl, why did he have to kill jews :s
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PostSubject: Re: Which era would you like to have lived in?   Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:08 pm

Hitler's goal? Mein Kampf gives a pretty clear view. Lebensraum for Germany. Fascism as an ideology is the theory that you're superior to everyone else. It is a warped version of Darwinism so anyone unable to defend themselves was fair game to be incorporated into the Third Reich. Fascism managed to take hold in Germany largely due to the feeling of mistreatment at the Treaty of Versailles and a desire for the restoration of a humiliated Germany. People were desperate and looked to extreme measures to get their wish.

The jews were blamed for a lot of the ills in Germany. Indeed, loosing WW1 was one of them, the fact communism was created by a jew and was an associated ideology, jews controlling money - they became a scapegoat. And then there was the completely irrational pseudo-science to justify their inferiority. Short answer, he didn't have to kill jews, he just hated them like i hate marmite.
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PostSubject: Re: Which era would you like to have lived in?   Sat Sep 01, 2007 2:07 am

so becuz one guy created communism, an entire ppl suffer? that doesnt make sense. and what do u mean "controlling money"?
was there ever a man like him before? what separates hitler from all the other "leaders" in history.
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PostSubject: Re: Which era would you like to have lived in?   Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:13 am

In what relation? Communism yes indeed cause a lot of suffering, as did fascism. If you're saying that Communism lead to Fascism and thus caused suffering, no.

Controlling money as in Jewish people held high positions in society, doctors, lawyers, bankers etc. People with money tend to be the most influential.

What separates Hitler from other leaders? Which leaders? Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, Ghenghis Kahn et al are all certainly comparable with Hitler.
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PostSubject: Re: Which era would you like to have lived in?   Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:51 pm

hitler must've been a mormon :D

http://www.spikedhumor.com/articles/123204/Mormon_Theology.html
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PostSubject: Re: Which era would you like to have lived in?   Sun Sep 02, 2007 10:34 am

Heh, i think he was more of a pagan if anything. The Nazis were very interested in the occult.
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PostSubject: Re: Which era would you like to have lived in?   Sun Sep 02, 2007 7:23 pm

so, would you like to meet hitler if u had the chance to go back in time? ;p LOL
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PostSubject: Re: Which era would you like to have lived in?   Sun Sep 02, 2007 7:50 pm

lol, and meet a funnny little man with brown hair supposedly calling himself the leader of the tall, blonde haired, blue eyed aryan race? No, God why?
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PostSubject: Re: Which era would you like to have lived in?   Sun Sep 02, 2007 9:52 pm

LOL .. j/k

it'd be interesting though.. if ppl had the chance to go back in time and talk to people.. maybe change their minds...

or maybe i should stop watching HEROES for a while ;p
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PostSubject: Re: Which era would you like to have lived in?   Mon Sep 03, 2007 5:19 am

lol, what happens in Heroes?

Reminds me of Command and Conquer Red Alert where einstein builds a time machine, goes back in time to kill Hitler only for Stalin to fill his boots and try to conquer Europe instead.
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PostSubject: Re: Which era would you like to have lived in?   Mon Sep 03, 2007 11:26 am

you really should watch heroes... makes lost look like crap.

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